DevalVR support

Hi, Fiero.

There is a line in your TO-DO list that gets me anxious - Stereo Views.
Are you planning to add support for some kind of anaglyph pano? Is it a special type of pano (made with a special camera) or common QVTR would be enough? Are there any examples of such a panos?

I recently read about ColorCode stereo technology (yellow-purple) and find it rather interesting, cause:
- it works on all kind of monitors (CRT - LCD - Plasma) and projectors and printers
- looks like an ordinary image when viewed without 3D-viewer
- has a low cost of glasses

URL: www.colorcode3D.com

Would be glad if it'll help.

Приветствую!
По поводу стерео-фотографий и панорам в частности = можете посетить стерео-сообщество :
http://www.livejournal.com/community/stereo_ru/
а так же сайт программы Stereo Photo Maker :
http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/stphmkr/index.html
Стерео-панорама делается по той же технологии что и обычная стерео-фотография.

ask him for glasses. i want to know if you too must adjust the screen every time you will use those glasses.... colorcode3d denies that 2d-image will look bluish when switching back from 3d-viewing with the colorglasses.
i have very natural looking colors now, but when looking through those glasses i must adjust the crt-screen to get natural look. they say i have an old screen.

This feature will allow to divide the plugin window in two parts and to load a different image in each one. The behavior will be similar to this page, but with only one plugin window: http://www.devalvr.com/paginas/producto ... oidal.html

It's possible that I create this feature full customizable, to divide the viewer in several views (2 or more) with the same or different images and the same or different camera values.

An anaglyph pano is a normal pano, but with two merged images. One image in RED channel and another image in GREEN-BLUE channel. You can create an anaglyph pano with photoshop and no special feature is required in any viewer.

Thank you for ColorCode note. Some time ago I was investigating about anaplyphs and added this feature to 3D maps. You can view some 3D maps in my example pages http://www.devalvr.com/paginas/galeria/ ... tml?tipo=0
If you have a RED-BLUE glasses, you can enable anaglyps view from right-button menu of the viewer.

best regards!

since colorcode3d is a real good alternative to anaglyphs-there are others just check anabuilder-site-i will check out if i have a problem here or if the problem i described is also on other crt-screen. they say i have a old screen. which is true. but colors are ok...??? colorcode3d showed better blue of sky.
i would integrate it in future solutions.
btw: i received glasses plus a dvd. but in the dvd i could not see a lot of colors..... a lot of the films looked like b+w only. but the online-gallery is impressive. except for my problem, having to change calibration. this can be done by saving it. btu its anoying. our customers would not accept this.

Wow! That is just perfect. Is it possible to add this feature to panos - turning on stereo-mode "on the fly"? It is not a good idea to have two copies of the same pano - one normal and one stereo. And is it difficult to implement other than RED-BLUE modes, ColorCode for example, as if it is more progressive?[/quote]

there is no 2d-3d-conversion in devalvr or photoshop. you will need two perspectives.

Okey, then i will only need one more panorama from another perspective and plugin automatically generate stereo-view. Is this right?

if you think to shoot mosaics and getting two perspectives under sky(with changing light) it could be a big problem. you would need eighter two rotapancameras(swinglens) or 3d-stereo-roundshot(super 220 vr with two heads),the latter cost 20 000 chf and not lightweight. i have not experiance with digital cams. i hope there will be a solution synchronizing them.
until now i have only seen poor rotapan-3d-images 360(anaglyph ones). poor= with no impressive depth-except those 3d-stereo-marspanoramas(stereobase: 30cm).
i would ask david sykes, who is translator of stereophotomaker. he is showing interesting 3d-panoramas-360. he is using two canon-filmcameras.
i would like to see images with people. if scenery is too crowded, stitching would be very difficult if not impossible. some people would look ugly.cut into two pieces.

CORRECTION: david sykes 3d-stereo-pans look good. i meant the ones shown elsewhere. stereobase was too small.
producing 3d-stereo-panoramas are not easy if not impossible. look at paul bourkes essay. marspancams had a so called toe-in of 1°. see pdf of cameradecription somewhere on a nasa-site. one camera is looking in(not parallel to the other). for better effect in foreground.

I searched in google for "stereo panorama" and the first two pages are great. The first is a page with nice examples http://stereo.jpn.org/panorama/panoramae.htm and the second page is a pdf about stereo panoramas creation http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~peleg/papers/ ... reopan.pdf

The only way to create a panoramic viewer with the option to see "normal" and "stereo" image is loading the two images in the viewer. This size is double than with a single panorama.

regards

http://www.stereomaker.net/panorama/lr/snow4_c.htm

very impressive. i thought they showed only anaglyphs. dual-windows was new. i had seen it elsewhere using pt-viewer.
update:
www.crosus.de (tilo)is showing three 3dstereopanos with pt-viewer.
http://www.stereomaker.net/panorama/lr/snow4_c.htm

is now working in FF(incl. menue) but synch is almost every time not ok. one has to refresh the site. who of our customers can/want to do this. in IE there is no menue. and: changing direction possible but not in synch....images are not linked.
SOLUTION: use only small size images 1200-1400kb. check these images there. no synch-problem.
maybe this is the same problem with devalvr-3d-panoramas. we will see when i first will use it.

Uf, to cross my eyes is difficult to me

Хотелось бы иметь возможность просмотра СТЕРЕОпанорам, с различными способами вывода, как в программе sview:
http://www.iz3d.com/download/files/sVie ... .4.0.9.exe
(dual output, dual output+зеркальное отображение второго изображения, interleis-черезстрочный вывод). Так чтобы стереорежим можно было при желании включать или отключать. Тогда эти панорамы можно было бы просматривать на поляризационных проекторах или поляризационных 3D-мониторах. Это было бы полным погружением в виртуальный тур!
Простите, за мой ломанный английский... Может быть кто-нибудь сможет перевести мой пост. Спасибо.

does anyone know murakamis email? its not running in FF, only showing stillimage.
i posted the question in photo-3d-yahoo-list.

update: working again, see my other update